On the Discussion with Daemon about the Great Central Sun Transmissions
July 6, 2012
The rant from Daemon was quite amusing to me and obviously comes from having a closed mind, as well as supreme arrogance that he/she has all of the answers. I will quote one of Daemon’s statements, which pretty much says it all, as far as where he/she is coming from (underline mine):
“This source claims that Magnetic and Electrical are completely different, separate, incompatible resonances of completely different central suns…Which any good scientist should hear as being total malarkey.”
I laughed out loud when I read that. Yes, we all know how astute and knowledgeable our 3D scientists are! The NASA scientists, in particular, have been feeding us total crap for decades!!
As I have already stated, the information in those channelings shook me up, too, but from the standpoint that it was new information that I had never heard before. In stark contrast to Daemon’s reaction of feeling darkness, I felt like a light switch had been turned on as I read them. The material resonates as truthful with me, as mind-boggling as it is. Additionally, the material is very consistent and clear, as well as being refreshingly technical, rather than philosophical, fluffy and vague.
It is quite “interesting” that Karen Danrich subsequently decided that these channelings had little value and deleted them. Fortunately, someone whom I believe goes by the name Gibbon thought otherwise and preserved them at:
Gibbon explains this here:
“In August 2008 I noticed that Mila and Oa no longer resonated with the articles from the Great Central Sun, which was quite a surprise to me, since these articles were the ones that attracted me to their organization in the first place, back in 2003. Since they no longer publish these articles, I think the Great Central Sun deserves another platform on the web and that’s why I decided to put these articles on this site.”
Could it be that Karen Danrich was “encouraged” to delete that information? Could this also be why she changed her alter ego name from Mila to Lilliya Nita Maha, i.e., to possibly break the association with this information?
In any event, it is wonderful that we have new information to consider as pieces to the puzzle. I have already saved the sixteen articles, as they may well disappear from the Internet.
Thank you, George and Diane, for making this information available to us!
you have pointed out to a conundrum for which I have no explanation myself – why the medium Mila (Karen Danrich) discarded later on her previous channelings which are very good indeed and even changed her name? My educated guess is that she was overwhelmed by the technical background of her information and could not cope with it as we see many times with other channelers, notwithstanding the fact that most of them receive information at a very low scientific level.
I see this dilemma for instance with Tyberon who channels Metatron and the quality of his messages fluctuates a lot – from good to crap.
With love and light
July 6, 2012
Just to tell you of the very deeply felt thanks and appreciation for all the extremely hard and tedious hours and time put forth by yourself for us, the PAT and for all of society. George, I don’t know how you do it, but you always come through for all of humanity abound who don’t have a single clue of what you are achieving for them and us all. We would be lost soldiers from the twilight zone, if it were not for you,and for the PAT. Now I know that we are not to become arrogant of our chores…
The further information on Ascension is just amazing and I am enjoying it to the highest level and I do see where we have come through so far… I am reading so intently the approval of ascent from the 3000 to the 6000 strands and if I am not mistaken that was when you said that we have ascended cosmically back on Nov,22, 2011. Is that what is meant there?
George,I do not know how you came across this, but it surely came out in good time as a great information and further awareness for anyone of us who would like to explore it. But I do know one thing and that is that we have been doing one hell of a job without any manuals and it is pretty cool to read stuff that was pertaining to us after the fact. I can not wait until we will all get to meet face to face and hug each other so tightly for the job well done on our part…
thank you for your appraisal, but it is OK for now. I have no precise information with respect to the number of DNA strands and I personally believe that it is only important to know in this context that there are natural limitations as to how high one could ascend. But I am fairly sure that the PAT members have achieved the highest possible ascension, no matter how one measures it – with DNA strands or with octaves (frequency levels).
It is also important to consider that this message from the past has been prospectively confirmed by our personal experience and this is the best validation, with some caveats of course, as a lot has changed in the meantime and certain considerations made by this source are no longer valid.
With love and light
July 6, 2012
reading the latest comments on the link related to channeled material received by Karen Danrich I come to the following conclusion. It is known that the earth’s history dates back hundred thousands of years and what the history and scientists are talking about have almost nothing to do with common sense. One piece of text that I read refers to Marduk and Innana. I have read the most books by Zecharia Sitchin’s Earth Chronicles – these invaders on Earth from thousand years ago.
At that time I thought the Anunnaki were the good guys because they had given us their knowledge and developed civilizations. It is known that they have genetically modified people, so they could work in the mines for them – it was the black race. The text on posted link mentions that the red race was the first seeded race on Earth by Sirians. By now I’ve never heard anything like it about the red race and their abilities. Probably there are many makers of the humans that have shaped the various races, but how does the red race fit into all this? From whom we descended? By “We” I mean – whites. If I understood well from the text, Pleiades aren’t the good guys? Maybe I’m mistaken? Sirius, Nordic, Tau Ceti, Procyon, Rigel etc. etc. Who are the good guys? If I do not bother you with this, Please explain me in your own words the human origin.
From my information it is hard to find a good guy (civilisation) in the history of this planet, at least in the last 100 000 years. Of course we only get glimpses of past civilisations that have existed on the earth.
If you read Seth (Jane Roberts), there have been several other civilisations before Lemuria and Atlantis. The red race was created at the time of Lemuria and at that time many of the Lemurians were of Sirian origin. The red race represented the simple folks as in both Lemuria and Atlantis there were great social differences obviously. Many of the red race tribes have not participated in these two civilisations to a full extent, but have lived on the periphery of these civilisations. When these civilisations finished, they continued to exist.
This has always been the case as also explained by Seth in his books. Seth speaks for instance about a humanoid civilisation which has lived in Minor Asia, present-day Turkey and has evolved similar to the current human civilisation which has emerged after the fall of Atlantis. This local civilisation has existed prior to Lemuria and Atlantis and we know virtually nothing about it, but my HS tells me that it is true and that I have been associated with this civilisation. However their technology was much more evolved than now and they could ascend collectively. Seth is also talking about two further humanoid civilisations apart form Atlantis and Lemuria.
I think that the whole history of mankind is much more convoluted than we can perceive it now and that it does not make much sense to put the pieces together as we have only a few of them and we will never be able to reconstruct the whole historic picture on this planet with our limited human brains now. We will have to wait until ascension to get the broader picture
With love and light
July 6, 2012
I felt a burning in my Solar Plexus when you came up with the extra information about ascension, in the form of the Mila channelings. Upon opening and researching my head felt like an inflating balloon, sucking the information in and trying to put it into place. I’m only half-way…
So far, it resonates with me. However, in the light of the soul groups Elohim and Ra (of the highly valued yet difficult to understand Law Of One), can we discuss where the Elohim and the (sun god) Ra should reside in the story of the Great Central Sun? Is Ra the Order Of Rize?
With Love and Light,
I do not think that this is of importance. I would recommend just to read the text and take what resonates with you. Much of it is no longer valid as it was channelled some time ago, when there were many possible timelines and the outcome was not known. Now we are in the last throes and many of these considerations are no longer valid or of interest.
July 5, 2012
Yes, the Ascension Workbooks are very similar to the original material. The new material at
is interesting. In her words, it is meant to enable people to “Retrieve your destiny … The new website is designed to foster realization of self and the journey beyond ascension into the wholeness theory of life and divine keys of all that exists and all that has ever existed through time.”
The new essays focus on transmutation and forgiveness of all that has occurred. However there is still the element of “the planet is in turmoil for its own survival” which I don’t resonate with. In my perspective, the dimensional split has already occurred. Gaia’s 5D expression exists already and she is fine on that level. Her lower expression, just like the 4D expression of humans, has to go through the process of cleansing, clearing, raising of vibration and eventually merging with her 5D expression.
How long that takes seems to be dependent upon humanity itself. This is beautiful, considering the amount of manipulation and interference throughout the ages. 4D Humans will get to decide just how long they want to waver on self-empowerment; we see this playing out now. Benevolent forces may assist to speed up the process, largely because we’re the “weakest link” in the evolution of the galaxy and they are dependent on us to move forward. But cleansing is cleansing, and lower vibrational expressions just won’t be tolerated, be it Gaia or Humanity, as the frequency of the planet increases dramatically in the next year.
I do find Lilliya’s new material helpful for clearing in order to incarnate the Higher Self and activate crystalline consciousness, which is the phase I’m in right now with my own ascension process. I did have resistance with the tantric/sexual focus of her new material, simply because my twin flame/twin soul isn’t incarnated right now. I now realize that the tantric focus serves as an activation of the crystalline structures and serves the process well.
thank you for this additional elaboration on Karen Danrich’s channelings. I do agree with you that these messages do not consider the latest energetic developments on the ground due to the fact that they were transmitted much earlier when many timelines were still possible and the actual outcome unknown.
Now the members of the PAT must restrict their perception for the sake of simplification and greater ease to the ample acknowledgement that it is no longer a question about their personal ascension and cleansing, as they have already ascended beyond the 5th dimension on November 22, 2011, but that they are still here to cleanse the collective dross which the rest of humanity has not been able to do according to the initial plans of these souls for the End Times.
Of course the cleansing of such collective dark patterns needs a clear mind and a full understanding why these thought patterns have occurred and are wrong, and in this respect the books of Karen give us some vital clues.
The only question that remains to be resolved is whether a more intensive occupation with this source will be effective in these last days when all the work has already been done and we must only stay on the earth as passive conduits of light without doing anything particular. But as we have a free will, we may as well decide to do much more. However it is difficult to know what this effort will effectively bring. Most probably nothing.
With love and light
July 6, 2012
I want to thanks all of you (Diane, Sandra and Georgi) for making this very important document (Great Central Sun Transmissions) available to the PAT. It contains 16 articles located at this link:
We have a very short period of time to read and to make the most of it. For that reason, I want to add my contribution by creating a single PDF file containing the full 16 articles.
This PDF file (Great Central Sun Transmissions) can be downloaded here
After saving that file to your computer, the user can:
1. Have very fast access to all 16 files by clicking any subject in a table of contents.
2. Search any word in all 16 articles at once.
3. Read this file (OFFLINE) without any connection to Internet.
July 6, 2012
I haven’t been in touch with you for months, but I do read your web site every day, because this is the only source of information I trust.
I want to thank you for keep it going, and I’m glad you have the energy to do it. I’d like to comment on something you said in the discussion with Daemon:’ I can assure you that the dark ones from the astral level, from where such attacks came in the past, have been retrieved or fully neutralized by the new energies that envelope earth and humanity… ‘
This is the fact, but it seems to me that people/ star seeds are having a hard time understanding it or accepting it. When I saw/clairvoyantly/ that the cosmic energies are started to override any and all dark energies, I was happy to let go of my transmuting ‘job’ and leave it up to those powerful energies to ‘do’ what needs to be done.
I was transmuting dark, low vibrational energies for a long time, probable that was the dirtiest job my soul ever signed up for. But, that part of my soul contract is over thanks to the new energies! I’ve talked to some star seeds about this information, but it seems to me that they simply dismiss it, and they just keep on believing that they must do the transmuting work. Therefore they still believe in dark attacks and what ‘comes’ with it..
I used to be a target for the dark, but I didn’t experience any attack since February. Many star seeds are not realizing that our roles have changed and they need to let go of the old transmuting work, and let the new energies take over!! Seriously, why would anyone want to hold on to that dirty job????
I’m focusing only on ‘bringing in’/to this 3D reality/ high vibrational, Source energies. I know, this is my only ‘job’/role now! I can see my personal vortex /I think that’s how you called it Georgi/ above me, open and constantly ‘spinning’. I see and feel that, through this portal there is a non stop flow of energy pouring into my body thus into this reality.
It is an extremely intense way of transmitting high vibrational energies and my body is ‘burning up’ from it. The most difficult effect for me to handle is the heat sensation within my body. It feels like I’m having fever all the time.. But, if this is what I need to ‘do’ to get this planet and most of humanity closer to ascension, so be it. It’s not like I have a choice anyway.
There are so many sleeping star seeds on this planet, not ‘doing’ their part of the energy work, so others have to… They still clinging onto their 3D lives. If anything, that puzzles me. These powerful beings are still not remembering their true selves and what they are here for…
And even those they have a better understanding of themselves, not able to keep up with the major changes and they don’t realize that everything is happening now.
Thank you again for all that you do.
On Free Photon Energy and the Higgs-Boson Fraud
I wanted to make you aware of the last link you posted:
seems to be connected to a scam Mag-energy.com. The website is very sketchy. The videos contain free energy information but what the website sells is broken products. There are many complaints about this company. None the less your article is very exciting to hear that free photon energy made it on mainstream TV.
I know that this product does not work, but this link gives an overview on the explosion of devices of free energy offered now. Even if these machines do not work, they create an atmosphere of expectations which will create the necessary collective thought pattern to establish such technology soon – most probably after the ID split and our ascension.
At present the spiritual and economic conditions are still not evolved enough to allow the implementation of such ideal, revolutionary technology. There is still the danger of misuse of this technology by dark factions of the human society as is now the case with similar technologies used only by the dark Elite against humanity. It is not so much a question of technical feasibility of these generators of free photon energy, but a question of the evolution of the collective human mind and ethics.
With love and light
July 6, 2012
… It’s actually quite funny when I read stuff lately. I was going to send you the picture in the Toronto Star the other day of about 200 physicists in a room when the Higgs-Boson was being revealed. They were all smiling like Cheshire Cats ear to ear. I was actually looking through the photo to see if I could find a single soul who secretly wasn’t pleased by the announcement, i.e – his soul told him otherwise. I couldn’t find one! So I didn’t send you the photo.
A lot of techno-intellectuals on my Facebook were all posting and I said – didn’t that thing cost $100 billion? Then I found out it was at least $13 billion. Give $13 billion to a series of physicists, industrial and technological contractors, trades people and so on, and I’m sure they could make that thing cost even more. What an epic waste.
You know I used to sit around in high school physics class and I realized now what I was uncomfortable with now – I will call this “information asymmetry”
It’s my uninformed opinion that in modern day physics, there is a kind of information asymmetry built into things. This is responsible for creating impossible scenarios, like when you do gedanken experiments in your mind, you realize certain things about physics, even math. Like math is just there in the modern sense to “set up the N-Set”.
I started dabbling in drugs – in this case, LSD when I was taking these classes. I did it a few times and even used to read textbooks on the drug… it was a kind of rebellion against present day science, I guess. But you intuitively could discover things in those states. Like your mind, in a reasonable, comfortable state doesn’t create illusions, unless they are language based. Now it does, but that’s probably something else. So I made these leaps of realization and only now, years later can I take your ideas and observations through the universal law and connect the dots.
They are all consistent thus far and though I don’t have the skill to mathematically prove to myself that they are correct and formal, I know intuitively that they fit all my scenarios of the varying experiments and so called “gut instinct” would prevail.
The most disgusting part of knowing of course, is knowing that the so called public, particularly members of our academic elite simply don’t know, or chose not to know. Therefore it feels as if I have the burden of knowing this, how the universal law in physics could really be used or applied even to social scenarios or our lives in general, and it’s thus far been relegated far, far away from the public eye.
But today, I remain somewhat upbeat because my health is returning and things could blow out for the powers that be at any moment.
The whole super collider in CERN costs more than 100 billion Euro since they started building it in the 90s. Its annual budget might be 13 billion or this particular experiment (on Higgs-Boson), but they built the collider on the pretext to find higher energy particles such as the Higgs-Boson.
The scientific community is the most dumbed down part of humanity and it will take the most time and will be the hardest to re-educate them.
July 5, 2012
Great George, your explanation is fantastic! I felt, better, my HS knew, that Higgs-boson was a fraud.
On the “Lie-more” (Libor) Banking Scandal
July 6, 2012
I continue to greatly enjoy and benefit from your wonderful website.
There is a short 9 minute video about the LIBOR banking scandal, currently being posted on many of the 2012 blog sites. However, none of the links work and it appears that the video has been censored on YouTube. I have also read that the video is unavailable outside of America. The information in this video comprehensively condemns the global banking cartel to its inevitable demise and should be available to everyone. In case you have not been able to view this video in Germany, I have found a link where it can be seen:
With much Love & Light,
thank you very much for the link to this video with Eliot Spitzer who was thrown out from his job as a state attorney by these same criminals on Wall Street. Now the “lie-more (libor) scandal” around all big banks was known as early as the 90s and then came high one more time during the financial crash in 2007-2008.
The only amazing thing is why it is warmed up again at this particular point in time. Obviously, there are huge Diadochen battles behind the scene in financial circles, as the banksters have lost practically all their money and know that there is nothing more to expect in the future from the Orion monetary system. This is good news and this fact gives evidently some of these rotten banksters and their entourage the courage for the first time to open their mouth and utter some truths.
However let us not forget that we witness daily the greatest scam ever committed in the financial sector that is happening in front of the eyes of the world community and nobody is outraged or even notices it. I am talking about the FED scandal lending money to all big banks at 0 to 0,2% primary interest rates and then allowing them to buy state (federal) bonds at 2-4%. The difference is paid by the US-tax payers.
If you now consider that the amount of US-bonds sold to banks and other financial institutions amounts to many trillions $ each year, you can easily calculate how many money the American tax payers have to pay each day for this scam. My calculation is 2 to 4 billion $ each day or 600 -1200 billions per year. This is the greatest official expropriation program of the people by the Orion US-banskters in the history of mankind and at the same time the greatest conundrum as to why nobody is outraged.
This is also the greatest possible scam a national state and a central bank could have possible commit on their people, and it is so obvious and ongoing since 2008 in front of the eyes of the American nation. I still have no explanation why the American people have not yet revolted, given their ongoing impoverishment, and have not hung all these criminal banskters on the next best trees on Walls Street and in the Central Park.
Only the dumbness of the American citizen, their total ignorance and deliberate rejection of any decent thought has allowed this scam still to exist and explains why nobody is outraged. This scam involves not only the banks, as is the case with the “lie-more scandal”, but also the whole USA government and its political system. In any normal country they must have been purged from power long time ago. And what has the harmless Occupy movement achieved so far? – Nothing!
With love and light
Thank you very much for your historical perspective on this LIBOR scandal and for your additional analysis of the even bigger FED scandal.
I regularly see from your responses to the e-mails you receive, how far “ahead of the curve” you are on all matters of universal significance.
Definition from UsingEnglish.com, (in case you are not familiar with this expression):
Similar to ahead of the pack, ahead of the curve literally refers to your position on the statistical bell curve, where the top of the curve represents the median, average result. By being ahead of the curve you represent the top percentile of results that either has the advanced skills or understanding that sets you apart.
With Love and Light,
thank you. I rather prefer the saying “gasping behind the curve” when I talk about the financial experts and most slumbering human beings with respect to the coming crisis and other big events.